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Quince - A forgotten fruit?

by Oregano @ 2007-10-31 - 14:41:41

Quinces are now in season but in my town they are nowhere to be found. They are not on the standard supermarket fruit list which is offered 12 months of the year. They are not even on offer in our one independent greengrocer.

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If you are not familiar with quince - it is basically a cooking pear. It has a hard flesh which if cooked for a long period turns a red colour. However I have hardly ever eaten it in this country. I recall my grandmother talking about growing and making things with quince but do not recall her ever serving anything. Perhaps that was from the time before I was born when she lived in the Kentish orchard country. I have heard of people making quince jelly and found the same at a cheese counter at Sainsburys in Reading once.

Abroad I have had it more often, for example on a trip to France last year. My late mother-in-law in Holland regularly boiled stoof peren (literally 'stove pears') and served them with meat and potato dishes in the Autumn. However they have been obviously historically part of our diet as shown by Ivan Day's Historic Food website. That website even states

There are far more recipes for quinces in seventeenth century English cookery books than for any other orchard fruit.

 
I bought the quinces in the photo in Holland a few days ago. They seem to be readily available there.  I will make my first attempt to use them in due course.

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deleted user [Visitor]

2007-10-31 @ 16:20

would be interested to know what you do with them etc...my parents have a quince shrub thing with quinces on in their garden! my mum brings them in to scent the place...they have quite a nice fragrance?

As I said in my posting in Holland people boil quinces for about 3 hours (probably with some sugar) then bottle them and serve them with hot food.

I have seen several recipes for quince paste including Iberian membrillo. I have not got round to trying any. I have one in the book 'River Cottage Year' and I just found one on the BBC websitehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/quincepastemembrillo_85978.shtml

I have not found the time yet to try making the paste.

Some people mix quince pieces with apple or pear dishes but I have never tried that.

I have heard of the word quince but never rewally knew what they were. The quince ^^^ I know as bosc pears. We eat them like regular fruit.

Are you sure they are the same? There are pear varieties that look like quince but they are edible raw, while quince is not edible uncooked.

They remind me of pears we have in the grocery store...bosc is not the right name as they are all brown

Here's a picture of a Canadian pear..

pear1

Here's a linky.. http://www.ecomallbiz.com/easy83/pears1medlarsandquince/

and some info copied from the linky

**PEARS. Most varieties are available on Quince A (will reach a height of approx 16ft) or Quince C (will reach a height of approx 10-12ft) , but generally weak-growing varieties are on Quince A and strong varieties on Quince C – so that an orchard of mixed varieties will, when mature, be about the same heights. However, please advise stocks your prefer. Pears are more tolerant of wet and dislike dry conditions– they prefer warm sheltered spots.
CANADIAN PEARS (these are ideal pollinators for Asian Pears and vice versa)
ASIAN (NASHI) PEARS. We have been growing three varieties of these pears for a few years and, as they are gaining such popularity, we may well add to this list. Williams are reputed to be a good pollinator, although they are thought to be self-fertile. A good polinator is our Canadian Pear.
PERRY PEARS. Due to the interest in cider, by request we have grafted two compatible EMLA stocks of perry pears.**

Thanks for the pictures and the link. The website does list quince (and medlar) separately from pears.

http://www.ecomallbiz.com/easy83/medlars/

I wonder if some of the pears have pear branches grafted onto a quince rootstock.

I notice (if we believe Wikipedia) that pears and quince have different botanical names.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quince
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pear

I would believe wikipedia. I know that pear or quince is incredibly tough to sink your teeth into and almost tasteless. Daft of me to be eating it then.

I suspect it would be great softened up by cooking as a sauce for as meat dish.

copdamcopdam [Member]
2007-10-31 @ 20:02

Yep, my mom makes them very often!

Do you know how she makes them?

copdamcopdam [Member]
2007-11-01 @ 11:55

I can find out... I think she boils them for ages, but she adds some stuff to them as well. Will phone her and ask the recipe...

Don't go to any trouble...I just wondered if you knew from memory. I know that my in-laws boil them for a good 3+ hours and I think they add sugar. I would ask my mother-in-law but she passed away recently. There are other in-laws I can ask.

copdamcopdam [Member]
2007-11-01 @ 19:07

I think they boil for about 90 minutes.
Peeled, quartered and de-cored (is that a word?)
In a big pan, covered with fluid (water and wine or berry juice).
500 grams for 2 people, 1.5 kg for 8 people, same boiling time (just less water and wine... or not...)
Add a few cinnamon sticks (2/3 for 8 people) and some vanilla sugar.
about 30 minutes from the end, add 3 to 5 table spoons sugar (to taste, again for 8 people).

You can add some cornflower to bind the fluids if you want, but not necessary.

I'd advise making it for 8 people because it keeps really well in the fridge for several days.

hope this makes sense :)

Thanks very much!

PrincessFionaPrincessFiona [Member]
2007-10-31 @ 20:37

Hmm I like pears.. we mostly dont cook fruits and eat em raw... only some like Bananas are cooked

In Europe, I suppose we both eat raw fruit (almost all of them) but then cook with quite a few mainly to produce desserts. For example apples are eaten raw but also used in pies, crumbles and cakes. In the UK we even have a large, sour apple - the bramley - which has very firm texture and is exclusively used for cooking.

In the UK and some other countries apples and pears are used for brewing alcoholic drinks (cider and perry).

In most European countries (though thanks to our Excise laws not the UK) fruit are used for distilled drinks. For example in Austria they distil apples and pears to produce obstler.

PrincessFionaPrincessFiona [Member]
2007-10-31 @ 22:01

hmm we brew some local alcoholic stuff from fruits too but its not had by masses because its very raw alcohol which can cause err poisioning at times (since not distilled properly)

we cook apples, pumpkins,jackfruits(is that a fruit?) but most like oranges, pears, apples are had raw..

maybe we cook more things I need to research :>>

technomisttechnomist [Member]
2007-10-31 @ 23:07

Here's what I would do:
For each lb of quince chop them up, cook them to a pulp in 1 pint of water, strain the liquid through a jelly bag overnight - do not squeeze it, or you will get cloudy jelly, take the liquid and add some citric acid or lemon juice for its pectin content, (my recipe says about a quarter of a fluid ounce). [Escoffier is a bit meaner, and would cook them with a ration of 7 pints to 4 lb of fruit.He calls his 'Gelee de coings']

For each pint of liquid you have after straining you add about three quarters to a pound of sugar. (Real experts will tell you that how much depends on how much pectin there is in the liquid and test a sample with methylated spirit to calculate an exact amount of lemon juice to put in and a precise ration of sugar before doling in the sugar. Generally add some lemon juice and you won't go too far wrong.)

Put it in a suitable pan for jam making, i.e a large heavy based pan.

Bring it to the boil. Skimming off scum when you see any. As long as it has enough pectin to set it, the less sugar you put in, the longer you will need to simmer the juice/sugar solution to get it to a setting point. It should not be for much over twenty minutes if you have got it right and can sometimes be only a couple of minutes.

Bottle into pre-heated, sterile , dry glass jars.

technomisttechnomist [Member]
2007-10-31 @ 23:10

Sorry, where I say simmer at the end, ignore that - its quite a rolling boil you are looking for.

Thanks for the extensive advice!

O.

technomisttechnomist [Member]
2007-11-01 @ 10:11

Yeah, I do go on a bit. Sorry.

I don't think I complained ;-)

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